SPEAKER_00
Oh James we haven't chatted in a while. What do you think of our part today? No man I quite enjoy just sitting here talking shit on all things. We're up to so hopefully You listeners get something out of what we're currently doing and trying we talk stuff about podcasts You do a lot of YouTube stuff some Reddit stuff some partnership stuff I think that's pretty much what we covered along this But kind of went into a little bit of depth on what we're trying to do and things so hopefully give some value to everyone

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, and guys subscribe to the advice community via the link down below Otherwise guys we've been trying struggling to find a Sponsorship slightly for the pod so you got it got to pay pay James gets a cut of the commission so you guys

SPEAKER_00
you ask and support me by by hitting that link getting a discount and I mean, we don't have to shove ads down your face either We just shut the advice ad down your face instead perfect perfect. All right. Give the pot of listening guys

SPEAKER_01
Take it easy. What's good everyone is track a child and this is James Delacy and you're listening to this week in digital marketing James first Just us two for a while. We haven't done this in a while.

How's it going? I know no things real good

SPEAKER_00
Just getting over sickness and got from my daughter from a one-year-old birthday party those dirty daycare kids You know always sick So pass it on to her and then pass it on to us and we got nailed by it but recovering

SPEAKER_01
nice nice For the audience they probably don't know because our podcast schedule was according to plan But I haven't seen James in two weeks because I was in Cancun and didn't want to record a

SPEAKER_00
Didn't want to record anything living the life there. All inclusive

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but dude, I'm not a fan of the all-inclusive life man. I think it's too artificial And it's like all Americans Stuffing their face themselves like heavily overeating as They're not with yeah, like there was one day where I ate eight steaks. It was pretty intense Absolutely rinsing them, but uh Yeah, it was it was alright.

It was for a wedding of my Janice's like friends. So it was fun. It's fun.

Nice. Well, what are you been up to besides getting sick?

SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I've been I've been doing doing a few different bits and pieces the first Thing I've been doing around the YouTube channel. So talk to theodore on on Twitter. He was posting recently I mean you showed me that clip as well.

We're basically creating a separate channel for the podcast So literally just before this podcast I finished moving all my podcasts from my main channel to a new channel and then my main channel was just to me my Normal videos plus I started vlogging with that which is something else we can go down So I moved everything so now I've got a dedicated podcast channel and then the dedicated Normal channel and hopefully yeah, that helps it grow quicker because then you're still thinking about doing that with this one, right?

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I think I think we could yeah But you you want to move you move the podcast. I was like dude Who I was thinking just like start a new one and then we just start from episode where we are on 54 and then just start there Yeah, you could do that That's just low effort shit, you know, I imagine Spencer Hawes imagine he has to move like all those that's crazy. Yeah, but Yeah, let's see.

Let's see. Hopefully our views don't drop too much. It's gonna drop no matter what but yeah Let's see.

Let's see it. Hopefully it doesn't drop too much

SPEAKER_00
It's a long-term plan. Yeah, initially because I've got no subs on the job I'm gonna have to send it out to my email list It's just gonna have to build again, but that's fine Like I probably get two-thirds of my listens for 50 to percent to two-thirds of my listens through like actual podcast platforms anyway So I was like whatever if it's gonna grow my main channel

SPEAKER_01
Then it's worth it. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. That's good.

That's good Yeah, I think I'm gonna focus a bit more on YouTube man. Have you seen my the recent series I'm doing? It's doing pretty well man

SPEAKER_00
I've been watching some of them. It's it's such easy content to Like you get a reason to sit there and then just talk about a topic and then just answer the questions from the previous video That's like easiest way to get engagement easiest way to create content. Yeah, I've been going down the Vlogging road to I started vlogging my training.

I've did one last week and it's like it did quite well I mean did on par with some of my other bigger videos But I've got and I had a few people message me like because I was asked me what what model people want to see And like, oh, you know, I'd love to see more like the full day of eating stuff in it and then the actual They're eating stuff really Dude foot foot it for I watch those all the time. That shit is huge. So this Saturday I'm gonna vlog my entire my meals my Training in the gym before wrestling and then at wrestling with a vlog that too and then afterwards and do a full thing like that I reckon they'll crush so that's gonna come out Sunday And that should that will be like the second training vlog For the meeting dude, that's crazy.

It's crush bro, you know Muscle and strength they have like over a million subscribers every video is either grocery shopping or for whatever eating

SPEAKER_01
Damn, but do they have to be jacked? I'm wondering like if you could just do like a normal guy like you can man. I eat a fuck ton But this is wrong niche for sure like SEO

SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah, I know I can do full full. Yeah full day of eating for an entrepreneur or something But yeah, people searching the stuff I was searching it for specifically for fitness stuff. So yeah, that'd be a bit harder but even just like I guess you do a morning routine shit and whatnot in the business space or Deep work.

I remember there's a dude. Okay. It came out and recommended it a while ago He was like he was a deep those deep work dudes, you know, and it was like I don't know got up like fucking like 3 a.m. And like cold shower and shit like that was like to fuck this guy

SPEAKER_01
But then like what's the premise of the video? Is it just them working and then or is it like they're routine?

SPEAKER_00
Is it like a routine day in the life routine? Yeah, it's more like a day in life, but it's just what just having people Watching you over and over then getting to know you personally like the personal brain I you see some huge businesses built off that I was like fuck it I might as well go into it because it's easy content people already kind of following me I'll just leverage it even further try and make the YouTube the main driver because my membership recently like this month in terms of Revenue and you sign ups is up like 60 something percent compared to last month in the same time frame And I'm like what the fuck is happening? And I think it's just coming from just coming from the YouTube So I'm just gonna continue pumping that and then try make SEO secondary on that main

SPEAKER_01
Sure, sure sure yo are you a For the sites that you got dinged on or what are you what actions are you taking? because I Think far and away got dinged my architecture site got dinged. I'm not sure what are you doing for that?

SPEAKER_00
yeah, so My main fitness sites going up now, which is all good my other small I guess you could say like mini-network site stayed stable my main site Wouldn't say got hit but the search dude the search just got fully rearranged like if you search any best keyword now It's like all e-commerce stores and if you get hit no way dude really dude Yeah, I'll have to send you a keyword, but it depends on like so like a lot of my best keywords just got pummeled by Reddit and like e-com stores and there's this one keyword. You know how they're trialing that Almost like an e-com style store page on Google. We're on the side You can kind of like click the different things you want.

Yeah, hang on So one of the serps has done that to me while these went I search it Maybe I'm just in a testing thing But it comes up and it's like filter by get it fast on sale price Oh, and that whole set the entire thing is just I Sge reddit e-com Ecom e-com videos explore brands and then like a shopping carousel Save your favorite brands e-com shop it like it's crazy man Like some of it. There's no affiliate sites nothing on the first page for that keyword anymore. Hmm. I couldn't believe it I was like far so But in terms of that site like some of the traffic dropped on it, but so I mean my revenue hasn't dropped Just because I've got the membership and that's like The main thing I'm focusing on is bring people into my membership because I have control over that That's kind of the brand. That's that's a digital membership training program business It's not an affiliate business.

That's kind of just extra on top So I'm pushing people hard to that But I'm going and and I've currently got my right updating like a bunch of different articles So I've been updating he's updated like maybe 15 of them I've published about 10 of them or so and just reapply updating those and as soon as I update them and they jump They jump like the next day back into

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, top you change like last published as well, right? Do you see my the heat I got online? Oh, gosh, dude

SPEAKER_00
I have to say videos I couldn't believe some people a like just because it goes against Google's guidelines And you're like my fucking God. You have to sit on Google's dick all day Like yeah, like they're like the spouting fucking God's message about how about ranking on their bloody platform Like I always change the the public state to now when I update

SPEAKER_01
I mean I should because it is last update like you're doing it, right? It's just I'm not doing it right And then they're losing their minds over it. Um, so just like for the audience that don't know whatever we're talking about Like I got some hate from your favorite SEO Lily Ray and some like Star Wars character on Twitter

SPEAKER_00
What are you just either is that a different person? Sorry the YouTube video. Is that a different person again?

SPEAKER_01
Do I need to please lie the one he says you lie about your revenue? Oh, I mean not I don't even like I don't even address I didn't even address that because I thought it was just purely false, right? Cuz yeah as the audience knows I'm just running partnerships the whole time I'm not attributing that as like my own revenue. So it's that's that's just purely false And there's no point in like addressing that because it's got like six views. Yeah Yeah, it's just uh, it's whatever I think but regards to the tweets I think Changing published date to the most recent date even though you didn't change anything in the article works 100% Yeah, is it against the rule? Yes Google specifically says not to do it, but they also specifically say not to build backlinks So you guys need to like get off your hire horse and I said shit, and then I fuck you.

Yeah Exactly, and I think like for example Like the friend of the pod Brandon from retro dodo this guy did everything right. He got pummeled right? He did everything right. He tries out by hand every single product that he reviews Like if he reviews a game, he literally plays it So why is he getting hit by Google? So something is wrong, right? Obviously if if If he follows everything to the tee and still gets smacked Meanwhile, like my partnerships like one of them got dinged by 10% will take those out.

I take that but everything else is Moaning so hard, dude Like something is wrong. Yeah, it's something is wrong there like

SPEAKER_00
Well, I mean ranking reddit and Cora is already a problem dude How anyone would think a reddit thread is fucking Good content to serve someone. It's like the worst thing I if you I mean, I'm sure you've clicked on them Many people click them you're looking for a term or an answer and you click on it and it's fucking just a bunch of like None of it actually answers the question. It's just some dude.

It's just people in the comments ripping the comments or saying some other bullshit Like how is this? Yeah, it's stupid. Um, but speaking of which like

SPEAKER_01
Do you remember how we I created a an advice group like oh, yes, how's that go? Dude, there's keywords on the front page Fucking crazy, man. Um, I think I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and Um, dude, I need to post on there. So for the audience what I did was um, I created a subreddit that only people in the advice community could use And then I redirected like 10 domains to the subreddit to power it up and I forgot about it, right? I just left it to die and I just checked it.

I threw it into hrefs and um, yeah, it's ranking for like not all To be fair the keywords aren't huge. They're like couple searches a month, but like best radar detector reddit um Shit like that And uh, yeah, it's kind of going crazy. We're like beth best toothbrush reddit.

It's like on second page like shit like that. Um So it's easily gameable. Um You know, it's uh, it's stupid.

I also create a I'll drop it in the comment section below, but it's uh reddit.com slash r slash reddit reviewed And uh, yeah, check it out guys. All I all we did is throw up like Uh, AI writers on there.

So are used to AI written content and it's stupid. So I think you can get away with um Really low competition stuff, but dude. Have you seen more and more? LinkedIn posts on in your serfs as well

SPEAKER_00
Not in mine. I haven't seen LinkedIn posts in mine, but dude, obviously like the supplement keywords

SPEAKER_01
There's no fucking way Dude, there's supplement keywords man. Like give me one. I'm not gonna Oh, you can't I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say it because we're directly competing, but uh, there's supplement keywords Let me just say that right now.

Fucking ridiculous, dude. Oh my god. I'm like what in what part of Like google small brain.

Do they think it's okay to rank like a supplement? article in a linked impulse It's crazy man

SPEAKER_00
That's like I've seen I've seen more indian magazines pop up recently too on some of my serfs. Um, just like more parasites than ever dude, it's uh

SPEAKER_01
It's getting pretty crazy. You're not gonna lie. Yo, do you think um, did you see my tweet this morning about how uh I got like d ranked for best vpn canada after my tweet yesterday No, I did did you really dude? So like yesterday and it's been steady for a couple days, right? So I've been uh, yeah, like number six on google for best vpn canada like a crazy competitive term And then I tweeted out like making fun of people like you'll imagine you've been working on that one Yep for like 10 years You get like cyber security expert to like review your content and then you get outranked by me using outlook india um And I'm like 90 percent sure like google employees.

We saw it for sure the sandbar And then the next very next day. I'm at number 10. Um, number 10 isn't terrible, but like James, what do you think? Do you think they put their finger on the thumb? They're like manually they went in and like slightly de-ranked it or do you think I'm in for the conspiracy, bro You think so you think they would do that? I I would have guessed like they wouldn't do it

SPEAKER_00
You're stable for what how long did you say six months or something? Yeah, something like that and then you do this tweet and then You're suddenly down a few spots correlation bro correlation

SPEAKER_01
R squared equals one one to one there you go. Well, it's it's only three months. Um, it got it got hit by the outlook india update.

Okay, so the rankings was like In september it was number two for the entire month. Yeah, and then the outlook india I'll go update got hit and I went to number six for For the last month and a half and then yesterday it got hit to 10 10

SPEAKER_00
10 for half or what? Yeah, no, I'm in conspiracy, bro. It was google. I mean they they they openly said they're looking at twitter They openly said they're looking at twitter for for different bits and pieces for sentiment So they definitely came across the old thing and was like fuck that guy

SPEAKER_01
for sure and then like um Fucking the star wars character like at uh tagged Matt uh john muller and search the a zone about the the uh revive press thing like changing the date dude like Relax bro, but I already wrote off that site. Um the the farm the farm site. It's whatever But I did purchase it for like 15 grand.

So it's it's not optimal, but fuck it. I guess

SPEAKER_00
It is what it is at this one. You gotta do what you gotta do, bro. Like on the reddit thing as well I've been playing around a lot with red.

I mean Uh guy met in vegas aron he's probably listening to this. He's at he's asked me today if he should join the advice community So he might he might be joining soon, but he gave me a couple of reddit accounts I'll be I've been a little more active on reddit recently. I've got my own account I started being a little more active on now.

I've picked up a few new members just for i'm posting on there I had someone DM me asking about coaching stuff So i'm like, okay trying to be a little more involved there. I got it and I think I don't know how many we talked about on the pod And I use my fake reddit accounts to pump my own stuff Um Send us up up votes and things basically asked for recommendations on a certain product And then my second account gave my recommendation and pumped both of those. Yeah. So stuff like that I've been doing and there's uh Have you seen the examples of bloody people ranking shit like at like creating subreddits as long tail keywords?

SPEAKER_01
Really? Oh, so like instead of reddit reviewed. It's like best mattress reddit

SPEAKER_00
And then they're no way and that's ranking bro. I saw it on twitter I was I think it was best gold IRA companies And they're ranking that shit through through subreddits. No chance really? Yeah, I couldn't believe it.

I don't know if it's still there

SPEAKER_01
Uh, what is an IRA dude? Why is it so? individual bro

SPEAKER_00
individual retirement counts they pay Stupid So I have a gold IRA site that i'm she just trying to get rid of because I just never put the time into it Hmm. I got like one qualified lead, but the qualified lead they pay like 200 bucks for the lead And the lead qualified is if they have like 50k in their bank account Uh, I think that's it and then they call with them and if they convert them you get I think it's 10 percent of Any money they convert into gold at a 50k minimum So you're making like five k plus so and that's lifetime as well. So if they start transferring Uh 401k and stuff into retirement accounts over and over again or transfer whatever buy more gold You're getting commissions on at every single time.

So if they They have 200 000 dollars in retirement savings and they want to move it into precious metals. You're gonna make like a 20 grand commission

SPEAKER_01
That's crazy. That's crazy. I don't even know that I should probably look into it.

Um, do you have a network?

SPEAKER_00
Uh, it's all individual Companies Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. If you do I'm gonna send you my affiliate link when you do it though. Fuck. Yeah, I'm fucking getting on board with this

SPEAKER_01
Dude, I don't know if um, are you getting hella paid from my fan fuel by the way?

SPEAKER_00
Like fucking fucking loving it fucking loving it, mate Yeah, that's keeping me. Let's keep it keeping me afloat because my fucking as I mentioned all the fucking econ keywords are fucking ranking for the shit So good and I don't I don't see your sites on my SERPs yet So it's not even well, I wouldn't even care because I'm getting fucking paid when you convert anyway, but yeah

SPEAKER_01
That's pretty sweet. It's a win-win. It's a win-win.

Maybe maybe that's the reason why they're not, um, raising my commissions though I wonder if they're like If they're gonna screw me because that um Because they're not raising any commissions for me. Fuckers, man

SPEAKER_00
They only but they only have ceilings. They have like real tight ceilings because that it's not like no, they don't

SPEAKER_01
Dude, I after working with like so many supplement companies, dude, we're getting like 80 commissions on some of them, man

SPEAKER_00
Yeah, but yeah, but those are like tests. Those are like fucking dodgy test boosters and some other random shit, right? Dude, fan fuel sales dodgy test boosters too. Yeah, I do too, but they don't offer a what 60 plus

SPEAKER_01
No, man, they're offering me like 50% I told them I want more they're or 60. I don't know. I must be 60.

I'm sure I'm sure they got to 60 at some point Yeah, well, I've asked for it. Um, and they haven't given to me. So modern.

I know you're listening to this

SPEAKER_00
Give Jackie that 60

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, come on. Um, well, they're not at number one anymore. So They're low pound sand because of it.

They're like number five or some shit. So again, they can eat eat that. Um But yeah, uh That's cool.

That's cool. Um, what do you think of? You know the advice community is kind of bumping man. Um, yeah, man Dude, we just got out the t-shirts.

I'm really hyped. I'm hyped about that. Dude, when did those go out? Um, they went out to like the veteran subscription guys.

Um It's not me they know dude We we spent like 400 bucks on t-shirts already. It's like no cheap man. That shit is not cheap because it's worldwide, right?

SPEAKER_00
Why'd you print on demand it?

SPEAKER_01
All right, it's still gonna be 400 bucks. We did. Yeah, but we um, There's just so many of them so many like veterans and uh Yeah, dude, we we went with like a heavyweight t-shirt as well. So it's pretty nice.

Pretty nice. Pretty nice. Um I still want to push my goals actually.

I'm gonna do I'm gonna do that. Dude, you gotta do it, man You gotta do it. Dude advice community is coming in clutch coming in clutch.

I think um pretty happy. Happy about that We're hitting we're pushing 5k a month right now It's it's not 10k a month though. I really wanted to get to the 10k a month, but I think Which at which point we need to double the amount of people, but I think if we double it I think the quality of the conversation will drop significantly There's already like a couple e-commerce people who like slip through the cracks because like they're they're e-com heavy But then they're not um seo heavy If you know what I mean, there's like people who are doing big stuff in e-com But not so much seo and then the questions get kind of elementary I'm not a fan of that but then they can add to other conversations, but I don't know.

What do you think?

SPEAKER_00
I think if you're doing it slow enough, it's fine. If you like obviously doubled it like overnight there that would be a problem But it's it's coming in trickling slow anyway, so it'll grow organically So I think you'd be good

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know what and one thing that I'm surprised isn't working is the um affiliate program isn't pumping like Besides you I don't think we got a single sale from anyone else Uh, damn

SPEAKER_00
Well, I don't see it posted anyway. I don't see it posted anyway But it's probably not a lot of girl, but

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I probably Sorry, you don't probably don't like follow it closely, but I think we send out like an automated email like that you should sign up for um affiliate program, but um Yeah, I don't know man. It's It's coming along very slowly in the beginning. It was crazy.

The growth was insane. It went from like 500 bucks to like 3k in a matter of a month Um, and just just from like tightening up the Like the processes like the automated emails dude, you got to you got to get on that if you're creating a community Yeah, like people are fully engaging all the time now. So that's good

SPEAKER_00
Yeah, man, you should uh I think you should create a crypto sub channel man. Just have everyone start Shilling bloody brand new shitcoins in there to try hit hundred X's and stuff since the ball runs coming back

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, dude. Hopefully it's coming back. Um, I'm unsure though.

I'm unsure because like well today the stock market is fucking ripping. So

SPEAKER_00
You think you think it's a it's a it's a it's a fake pump Is it gonna come back down?

SPEAKER_01
I think it'll probably go down in the next two. Okay. This is like not financial advice This is purely like there's no

SPEAKER_00
Done here. This is from financial advisor Jackie. I'm sure if you search financial financial advisor Jackie chow You'll probably find him being quoted as a financial advisor somewhere dude, but anyways, I think uh

SPEAKER_01
Not financial advice. This is purely based off of feeling no analysis where it's done But bitcoin happening is like what? April. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So we still got time. We have a lot of time So I think what's gonna happen is like it'll go down into Christmas and then it'll fucking like pump right before the half like Yeah, so I mean there's gonna be some blood industries Over Christmas, but let's see.

Let's see We'll see we'll see Fuck dude. I can't wait for crypto bull market to be back again because like every bull market I think I'm quite literally the best trader in the world because I just

SPEAKER_00
For everything you go into just pumps

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I like I'm like, dude, I'm gonna quit niche sites. I'm gonna quit this youtube shit Full time full time crypto trader full time NFT trader speculator Yeah, and and when that happens james, you need to be there to remind me to take money off the table and buy some safe shit like real estate

SPEAKER_00
safe shit like uh safe moon

SPEAKER_01
Dude didn't they get like didn't the founders go to jail for that? No, they're still out. They're still out. They are promised on what?

SPEAKER_00
A whole host of shit. Nothing's really happened there It's like a bunch of like it what flokey coin and Fuck how many other doge coin is still? pumped up

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's wild man. That's wild. Yeah, hopefully it comes back then the crypto Crypto bros will be back as well.

Um, yo, what do you think of our partnership the partnership that's coming in clutch lately? Um, so for the audience It's a really large site. It's nearly uh a household name. I would say it's it's not a real household name but it's nearly there.

Um I thought it was like a dead in the water type of uh, so did I deal? Because we so it was a partnership deal We wanted to own the content that we create so they can't just pull the plug at any time I told james to do the same because he was offered the same deal and we kind of stood strong like apes strong together you know type of thing and uh Yeah, and it worked out. I think they kind of they let us own it as they should because it's the right thing to do and hopefully the Thing comes through what's your strategy for the partnership once we onboard it like what's the vibe on that? dude Pop the affiliate content on there to see what fucking what like what direction are you going like which niches are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_00
Uh Or be some supplements. I mean we've talked about that already as well, but then it's gonna be mainly the strength equipment stuff Because I reckon I can get I mean I've got a bunch of it. I can I can get original pictures.

The shit if I need that's higher ticket Typically converts well get that shit ranking and that can be that can be very very nice. It's gonna be tough though. I mean Google's just ranked like garage gym reviews ranks like number one for absolutely every single keyword.

Who? garage gym reviews Because they have crazy like their youtube channel basically gave them that huge leg up and then their website just like ranks for absolutely everything because I've got youtube videos and absolutely everything too So I just got Crazy content on that, but that's what that's what I'm gonna. That's what I'm gonna do there. You gotta cover as many niches as possible

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, we're also gonna go into the supplement niche. So we got um make sure we don't do any overlaps for sure

SPEAKER_00
You're gonna hit only fans at the same time on there

SPEAKER_01
Dude, I did pitch them on that. Um, I pitched the president on only fans and he was like he's very sus He's like nah, man, and I was like but the money's good. That's we can do up to 200k a month and he's like oh Okay, um, yeah, because money talks at the end of the day.

Um, yeah, and For like a finance site to do only fans. Is it a bit of a stretch? Yes Is it good money? Also? Yes. So Let's see where we land on that um Technically it's part of finance Yeah, but also also they have like that site Publishes casino articles.

So like chill chill bro like yeah And he says something like yeah, we're trying to get rid of them. Um I literally you can go like site colon their domain and then type casino and you find like thousands I'm like what are you guys doing like this is this is some weak shit, but but you can you can um, can't you press release on benzinga?

SPEAKER_00
Mm-hmm. Yeah, so then anyone can post casino shit if they wanted

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, um, do we have to bleep that shit dude? Oh, fuck. Yeah, I can bleep it and it's a bleep that bleep the name there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, make sure they work this clip

SPEAKER_00
Yeah, fuck. Yeah, it's pretty jokes. Um, but yeah, pretty much

SPEAKER_01
They they they do press releases and it's Terrible product. Um, they don't even make 20k a month. I think from the press releases like what are they doing dude? Crazy man.

Yeah, oh um partnership number two the site, uh, you already know right? The other partnership of the newspaper of the this I'm doing. Um, dude We have officially taken over as the majority traffic on this whole site. Holy shit.

Yeah, what about revenue though? Revenue obviously not because they're really good at like selling local businesses on like sponsorships But uh, yeah, I should catch up. We're we're tracking. I think like 10 And like we did 10k first month, which is already sick.

I think this month will probably do like 20k um slower than my first partnership, but uh Yeah, let's see. Let's see how it goes man. Um, dude, that's first partnership is like 250k right now, which is fucking bonkers dude.

That's insane man. That's such a crazy money. I actually had um

SPEAKER_00
The two sites I'm talking about partnering with that are in my niches So Basically, I'm gonna be able to yeah, what's going on with that? Well, they actually uh They're actually one of the companies that's in america touring right now. So they actually came to my house A couple days ago because I keep seeing them. They keep sending me packages.

They need for different things So they're actually here in uh an austin for a month So I'm gonna catch up for dinner with them tomorrow night But they pop around here. So that that came we're just figuring out Kind of all the different things because a lot of these companies are like, yeah, they don't want to give us They already have blogs They don't want to give exclusivity on the blog because they have other people that kind of post their updates And whatever they're doing. I was like, okay, that's cool.

Just let me do everything else So that I think they're open to that. So taught them tomorrow. The other company's also still keen But it was it was the same thing about the exclusivity And I was like, yeah, it's cool, man.

We can figure something else just as long as we don't overlap It's cool. And then um So I'm waiting for both of those and they should come through the best thing is on one of the sites Because I'm doing digital products for their e-com store. I can just pump my own digital products within the blog Plus my membership stuff on both of them like It's a woman then I can hit all the other stuff on top of it for the affiliates

SPEAKER_01
Yo, the key is to interlink by the way Yeah, interlink is fucking nuts You're a little pba network Yeah, but the thing is if you interlink, um, make sure there's no like what is it? Uh, It's like an abc link. So they don't they don't do like yeah, yeah, but uh,

SPEAKER_00
Dude, it looks like crazy. You remove them though after a bit, right?

SPEAKER_01
You can remove them after they and then yeah, guess what guys the rankings stay So there was like this echo effect with link building. I don't um, this is a bit more black hat But for the for the listeners, um, what you can do is if you build like 100 links to a page and then for example The best vpn candidate link what I did was I built like a ton of links and I pulled them all and then Guess what it stays there. Um, nothing happens.

So So nice just do think like That should probably get the juices flowing there. Um, there's a lot you can do with that knowledge. Um, Yeah, I'll give you some some other which I don't uh, say I'm not gonna say you should do you can build like 100 pbn links to a single page Have it rank Pull the links for like three months and then sell the site and then people and say you've never done pbn links I'm I'm like 100 sure Empire flippers and uh fe international.

They won't cash that Because they do um, they when they do due diligence. They don't go historical backlinks. I know that for sure so damn Yeah, like I'm giving you the gun and You know, I'm just I just sell the gun right you can't it's uh, you can't you can't sue the yes, this is america Yeah, exactly.

So Do with it what what you will um, but yeah, it's uh interesting one. So anyways You just pull the links after a while and It should you should be a okay first thing I would do is like back links

SPEAKER_00
To all your sets. How are you writing the stuff with koala there first? Can you write a good round up like the amazon ones but without amazon products?

SPEAKER_01
Mm-hmm. It's more manual though. What do you like give me a keyword? Like what best vpn canada.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, easy. You use the outline editor So it requires like one step more and you can't do bulk.

That's why I like doing amazon so much is because It's easy for you throw that into yeah, I threw throw that into koala. Oh, I I do uh I did a video on this but like you just throw into koala bulk We do like thousands at a time and then I might have my it's in drafts. So like it's not published I'm not spamming the internet and now have my team going and edit it.

I take some like 20 to 30 minutes per article

SPEAKER_00
And then it's like beautiful. It's like super optimized editor in the actual WordPress editor and that includes the optimal like if using surfer and stuff

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, we're not really using surfer no more. But um, yeah, pretty much as an example. Yes

SPEAKER_00
You optimize it within the actual thing and everything

SPEAKER_01
Damn dude easy clap man. Yeah, it's super easy. Uh Uh, can't complain man.

Do what what what else are you gonna? What else are you gonna do like well, I'm just trying to So, okay, one thing I've noticed is like the niche site community is like, oh, it's against Google guidelines this this tactic my favorite is when they say this tactic will never last And then they're out there making like 3k per month on their new site So what I say to that is like dude, I rather make 300k a month and have it last like Three months. Yeah, then what is that like? that's like freaking 20 years for a niche site like niche site owner like Which one would you pick? I'll make 300k a month for three months and Dude, I'll just retire bro. Like you guys keep doing that.

You can keep doing that for like years if you want like That's that's the reason why I do like sketchy tactics. Um There's just Who knows like even the best sites get slapped like retro dodo for example, um One site that I thought would uh would get clapped Is uh epic gardening, but they didn't which is I mean, it's great to see because kevin's a friend of the pod but um, why would you think it would get clapped? because uh, they the well, you're you're right because I was gonna say because they have a lot of affiliate content, but they don't they don't really rank for that So informational content wasn't really clapped But informational content will get clapped by sg for sure. Dude, you got to diversify for sure.

I go Go heavy into affiliate

SPEAKER_00
Yeah, but I think the biggest thing as well like they have huge social channels and I swear youtube props everything man The people with big youtube channel I swear god doesn't do anything look at my architecture site man

SPEAKER_01
I have like 20k subscribers on youtube. I got like a million subscribers on tiktok dude, we're doing everything like Right, but we still get clapped to oblivion. We're only doing like 20k a month and uh, wait.

I only see 1.96k subscribers on youtube Oh, is that Fuck I thought it was 20 Where was 20k then made pinterest? I don't fucking know anyways One of the we have like 900k on tiktok like

SPEAKER_00
Yo, but I think I think if you have the youtube and the people searching your brand On google That's when you become like immune If you get a big of twitter, uh, youtube following people are searching your brand on google and that just goes up

SPEAKER_01
You think Well, okay, how about this we take indexy as an example You know like I got a couple tweets popping off. I'm doing this youtube series. That's doing relatively well I wouldn't say like it's outsized returns, but people are searching.

I can see my search volume is going up for my name via search console on my personal site um, but indexy Traffic is not going up. So what's up with that? But they're searching indexy or they're searching you. Mm-hmm. They're searching indexy because it's my twitter tag, right? Yeah, indexy like it's still clapped to oblivion like I mean, I obviously don't care. I don't use it.

I mean worse. We're like the content is like pure trash, but you know I think you answered the question. No, but like The the like it just goes against it like these uh signals don't really do anything.

So people when they say like, oh, yeah, uh The eat eat guys even like the friend of the pod kazra says like oh if you have the uh author I don't buy a knowledge panel like I think I have it for my name, but I still get clapped like

SPEAKER_00
let's see hmm I don't see a knowledge panel

SPEAKER_01
Currently, but it could be much like sometimes. It's it's very weird every now and then

SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I mean I've seen it way too many times in fitness big as influences on youtube and stuff Yeah websites that are you know da 30 and they're ranking for big big keywords Because they have millions of subscribers on youtube and it's not just because of the subscribers I think it's just because people are searching them all fucking time And that's just like I think that is massive Now my garrish gym reviews again is a huge example. They're affiliate stuff But hey, you such any gym equipment keyword you'll find garrish gym reviews number one. You such anything and uh I mean they've they've shown they do hands-on stuff and then Their website the article kind of just extrapolates on that they do a lot of quote They do a lot of quotes on there too, which is interesting.

That is kind of like uh This like our edit to the srs and then they're kind of like quote all sorts of different things to add like personal touches and stuff It's pretty interesting

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, it is. Hmm Let's see, dude. I did I did you I think you might be on do something because uh I'm searching like one of my largest influencer friends Um, like three million on youtube three million on instagram Um for the audience if they want to search some of her names like tiffy cooks And yeah, can I share a screen on um, yep, you can let me try to share this uh Look at her fucking a trips man.

All right

SPEAKER_00
Holy shit that mooned

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, kind of crazy, right? and um Let me share this tab instead. Do you see this now? Yeah, I got that. Okay. So like peep this um So she got 1.7 million on like instagram damn And yeah, she she's killing it man crushing it, but do you think it's actually because of The eat thing

SPEAKER_00
I guess so right look at this. I'm not even putting it down to eat. I'm just putting it down to the fact that when you have Followings that big people are always searching for you because people aren't searching probably Yeah, people are searching fried noodles and finding a side but probably a lot of people are searching tiffany cooks fried noodles Tiffany cooks this this this you know Yeah, just I bet you I bet you if you put it into google now that probably already has the autocomplete tiffany cooks Here you go tiffany cooks chicken tiffany cooks cookbook tiffany cooks salmon like There's like a billion autocompletes for her brand

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, fair enough fair enough

SPEAKER_00
What's her and you can do the same thing with the other big one if I got garage gym reviews Free workout adjustable dumbbells treadmill floor like if you have those long tails people are searching the shit out of your brand with and then Associating it with those long with those entities and then it's kind of like That just blasts you

SPEAKER_01
Yeah Hmm See you Yeah, let's see. Let's see what we can do with this but uh Yeah, let's let's you got a thing on this. Let's uh wrap up Um guys if you like this type of video, we haven't done like a solo pod in a while We're just James and I um let us know in the comment section What's going to be the title of this pod? What do you think? dude, it's just

SPEAKER_00
We're just kind of like we have no title and then uh, so my pod number

SPEAKER_01
Yeah, probably probably. Yeah, let's see. Well, that's pod uh like subscribe comment, please Um, oh, this will probably be in the new channel.

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